kamenashi's greatest hits
Feb. 23rd, 2010 01:46 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)

HAPPY 24TH BIRTHDAY KAME!
In honour of our beloved Kamenashi's birthday, I have put together this collection of Kamenashi's Greatest Hits. This is in no way a comprehensive list, and I would love it if you would respond with your favourite Kame stuff - pics, vids, interviews, fics, etc. Let's all give our obsessive devotion some place to go on this most joyous of occasions~
when we were watching this,
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this song will forever stand in for everything that is beautiful and pure in the world, or me. in emotional moments i always expect kizuna to start playing.
oh kame, why are you so deeply retarded and amazing.

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These are Akame-centric for obvious reasons (ie, I am an insane Akame fan)... sorry, non-Akame fans.
Our Ring by
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The Sun and the Air by
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Available Light by
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Thumbenashi by
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There's No Place For Make Believe by
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Perfect Moments by
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Transfiguration for Dummies by
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Miscommunication by
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The Lines We Travel by
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Please leave a comment with your own very favourite Kame things~
HAPPY BIRTHDAY KAME-CHAN!!!!
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Date: 2010-02-22 03:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-22 09:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-22 09:55 pm (UTC)I'm vaguely wondering if you're talking about me now. :-) I certainly have theories about Kame and fake. And making the food smaller with his teeth was not a fandom-defining moment for me for nothing. (I have an otter icon to commemorate the occasion!) Because I agree, you can't fake that. But I'm hesitant now to go deeper into to it for fear of making you angry. That would be bad, on Kame's birthday! :-)
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Date: 2010-02-22 10:33 pm (UTC)it's not like I think Kame is 100% honest, anyway - I definitely think there is Kamenashi the idol and Kame the guy, but a lot of people think that when you strip back Kamenashi you would be left with this cold hard manipulative bitch, whereas I think when you strip back Kamenashi you probably just get a lot of Kame the awkward weirdo dork.
Go ahead skfma you won't make me angry, I'm only about 3/4 as psycho as I pretend.
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Date: 2010-02-23 07:52 am (UTC)This is, like, the fandom motto. Aren't we all!
Please don't feel bad! I wasn't actually uncomfortable, I was just making sure. :-) Because of that brilliant way internet psychology works where you end up going 'OMG IS IT ME' and I figured I'd avoid drama in my head. :-)
And admittedly, I even get that with a lot of Kame hate floating around, someone saying 'I think he's fake a lot' without context can be read the wrong way. So anyway, I don't think he's totally genuine all the time, though I think there's a huuuuuge difference time-wise; I think these days he's being an idol and being professional on the outside, which is not a bad thing. But he has a phase, when you look at 2007 footage or roundabouts, where I would call him 'fake' in a lot of contexts. He strikes (struck) me as someone with a very strong need for external validation, and when he has a stressbunny phase, it comes out in more frantic audience-pleasing, IMO.
Which, honestly, if you already like him, is just a psychological gold mine and endlessly fascinating. (Though I find it very very soothing to see him on shows these days when he just seems so much more self-confident and assertive. Go Kame!) But when you're not already invested... That's why the otters made the fandom for me. I was actually almost out the door already; I'd watched some stuff and read some fic (there is a whole longer version of this where I totally blame Soft Skin Boys for pulling me in), but I wasn't sure yet if this was really my thing. I had watched a lot of footage in a row where he was just so high-strung and people-pleasing and OH LOOK AT ME LOOK HOW MUCH FUN I'M HAVING HA HA HA, and I just found it exhausting. I never thought he was a cold manipulative bitch underneath; I figured he must be pretty sad underneath. But I was kind of '...do I really want more of this?'
And then Kame bit off the food for the otters, after the otters had already nibbled on it, and my heart went THUMP and suddenly I WAS INVESTED. Because that was the single most spontaneous thing I'd ever seen him do thus far, and it was adorable and really nice. And you can actually still see the other stuff in the clip -- I don't think Kame is comfortable with that woman, he's essentially pouncing on the otters given half a chance, but he also doesn't manage to say no to stuff he'd clearly rather not be doing (not that I would expect him to be rude! but he's so... not confident about it and pushover-y).
So the otters were my first clear moment of really honest, spontaneous Kame. And it also put the 'fake stuff' into a different perspective for me, in a way that now made it interesting rather than exhausting. To make the Akame comparison, I think Jin is very uncomplicated to love; Kame is pricklier, but also more fascinating to poke at and try to make sense of, and complexity is good. (And when you start fretting over a guy's TV ratings, you know he's doing something to you.)
And like you said, I don't think you get cold hard manipulative bitch Kame when you look underneath, or even superidol Kame. Awkward weirdo dork is more like it, with a dose of angst and validation issues depending on taste and time period.
Sorry this turned into the Reader's Digest version of How I Got Into Sparkly Fandom, by Julia, Nearly 30
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Date: 2010-02-23 07:54 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-23 09:03 am (UTC)I always thought that a lot of his OH LOOK AT ME I'M HAVING FUN stuff came from his inability/unwillingness to express how tense and unhappy he was. And basically from realism/pragmatism on his part; he could say no to people, but it wouldn't get him anywhere but out of work and out of favour, with no money, no high school diploma, no baseball...
I always got the impression that there was a LOT more pressure on Kame than the rest of KAT-TUN at that time; or at least, it seemed like he really had a grasp of how much they had riding on their first few singles and that he felt like he had to really haul the rest of them through it, no matter what. Now that they're fairly stable and entrenched in terms of their popularity, you can really see that he's eased up a lot and doesn't feel like he's got to be 'perfect' all the time. It's such a relief. He seems so much happier now than he did a few years ago.
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Date: 2010-02-23 10:27 am (UTC)Basically, at that time, he just seemed patently miserable.
Yes, I totally agree. And about needing people to love him. Shuuji to Akira is really not a non-angsty way to get into the fandom either...
That's a good point about pressure and lack of alternatives for Kame. I do think that's also about interest, and to a degree he chose it that way (no diploma, but also no interest in a different career), because I think he loves the job more (when it's good) than the others, too, the whole idol thing. When it's not eating him up, it's what he really wants.
You think Kame has money issues? (Beyond a standard level of 'need job of some sort' that I would guess applies to most people.) I've gotten vibes like that from Pi, for various reasons, but never from Kame.
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Date: 2010-02-23 12:00 pm (UTC)I agree that his lack of other options are by choice, but that doesn't mean that he is any less screwed if like, Real Face had flopped. He chose to go all in on KAT-TUN because he loves it, but I just think he was really aware that it was a really risky choice to make. And that management had made a significant investment in them and that it wasn't a game, that they'd be wanting to see returns. I've always felt that Kame probably frequently acts as a buffer between KAT-TUN and management - less so now, but definitely then. I can't remember exact sources, but I remember someone - I think it was Nakamaru? - saying "when Kame told me we were going to debut" etc. For whatever reason, Kame ended up in a leadership kind of position, and he took that really seriously. So I think his intensity is both because he loves his job and because he wants to protect the others. I believe him 100% when he says he was told that if Shuuji to Akira were successful it would mean great things for KAT-TUN, and that's part of why he just about killed himself making Shuuji to Akira happen, despite the fact that KAT-TUN were all pissed with him. I think he's essentially a team player. I mean sure, he wants to be MVP, but at the end of the day I think it means more to him when he's part of a team. Whenever I think about it I think about what Nakamaru said about Kame being the one that pulls them together and organises their opinions and stuff. He's been having to do that less and less as the others step up to the plate more. I basically just think he became responsible a little ahead of the others and had to wait around for them to catch up.
This answer got really incoherent, sorry :( I'm really tired.
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Date: 2010-02-23 10:23 pm (UTC)I agree with that. To me this ties in a bit with the senpai thread, actually; Kame gets on well with grown-ups, he's like a natural addressee for management. (Not that that's a role that would be always fun for him. Not that he'd delegate it anyway.)
And the team player observation -- yeah. For all the leader stuff and his ambition, he never gives me vibes that he would actually like being a solo artist. He likes the band stuff, the team stuff.
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Date: 2010-02-23 10:32 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-22 09:58 pm (UTC)AFTER the otter has already nibbled at it. So... down to earth and pragmatic, and utterly unselfconscious with it. I love that moment.